Health Care Repeal


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15 Responses to Health Care Repeal

  1. shiloh says:

    It’s a great idea ’cause it’s makin’ boehner/cantor/blackburn/bachmann/ryan and the rest of the Keystone Kops look like bigger fools than they already are, if possible. Charles would be soooo proud as it’s kabuki theater at its finest! They must think moderate independents are really, really stupid.

    Again, Reps won the 2010 mid-terms nationwide by (5) million votes as (29) million 2008 Obama voters stayed home ie Reps are turnin’ all registered voters into likely 2012 voters w/every action they take …

    You bet’cha!

    Re: the wingers mistaken 2010 mandate remember what happened when cheney/bush said they had political capital after the 2004 election and turdblossom was talkin’ about a permanent Rep majority ~ Oops!

    All fame is fleeting …

  2. mclever says:

    I wish they’d quit wasting money on kabuki theater and get down to business addressing the very real problems our country faces.

    Where are those jobs already?!

  3. Bart DePalma says:

    For those who voted implement and improve, what are you actually proposing?

  4. mclever says:

    Bart,

    They’re all proposing your worst nightmare! Single-payer Health Care!

    😉

    Seriously, I’d propose increasing the credits to lower income families, expanding the exchanges and making them more competitive with employer-provided coverage, and maybe improving the minimum mental health coverage requirements, for starters. I’m still holding my breath for a single-payer plan that’s portable across state lines and comparably priced with a decent HMO, but I figure that’ll happen about the time my grandkids graduate college. (Hint: I don’t even have kids yet…)

  5. Bart DePalma says:

    mclever:

    The problem with the keep and change question in polling is that it intentionally neglects to define change.

    A large number of the change crowd do want a public option or single payer. Others want to get rid of about increasing percentages of Obamacare and would never accept a public option or single payer.

    The folks who want single payer, actually want to repeal Obamacare.

    The folks who want to keep parts of Obamacare are only looking at keeping relatively minor items like coverage for preexisting conditions in high risk pools and probably filling the donut hole. These folks want to repeal 80% of Obamacare.

    In short, support for Obamacare itself is pretty damn low.

  6. Mr. Universe says:

    Support for repeal is at an all time low. 18% as a matter of fact. Which means that health care reform remains a popular idea. So despite all the caterwauling by Republicans one can only conclude that Republicans want to repeal it because…they can’t take credit for it.

  7. Bart DePalma says:

    Speaking of polling questions, CNN provides a really interesting contrast this week

    When CNN asked: “Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president?” Americans said they approved by a margin of 53% to 45%.

    Yet when CNN asked: “Do you consider the first two years of the Obama administration to be a success or a failure?” Americans considered it a failure by a margin of 48% to 46%.

    Perhaps 6% who approve of Obama’s job performance also believe that his administration is a failure.

    Is this discrepancy explained by Obama’s personal popularity or something else?

  8. Bartbuster says:

    Perhaps 6% who approve of Obama’s job performance also believe that his administration is a failure.

    Most likely they approve of what he has done, but wish he could have done more.

  9. Brian says:

    Bart,

    I usually try and avoid your questions, but because I can’t handle them, but because you seems to be jousting 5 or 6 people at once. But as to what people mean when they say “keep and improve”, I personally like some aspects of the PPACA and dislike others. I like how many of my friends are on their parents’ insurance for a little longer, I like how people can’t be denied insurance because of a pre-existing condition. I dislike the lack of a public option, I dislike the lack of voluntary counseling sessions with end of life patients aka the “Death Panels”.

    I would like to incorporate ideas from some of those evil socialist countries where the quality of life and healthcare are better than the US. But I’m happy that we’re making some progress, because the way we were heading would bankrupt anyone that gets sick.

  10. mclever says:

    Yeah, speaking of that new law that means people can’t be denied coverage due to preexisting conditions… Anyone see the recent report that said that over 50% of Americans have some sort of chronic condition? Seriously. 50%. (If y’all want a link, I’ll go find one, but I don’t have it handy at the moment.)

    That means, without PPACA reforms, half of all Americans were in jeopardy of not being able to get health coverage unless their employer provided it. That made them hostages to their employer. Or, if they had a great idea for going into business for themselves, it outright prohibited them from doing it, unless they were willing to take on the health risks inherent in not having health insurance (and no sane business-minded person would risk that). From that perspective, PPACA is so pro-entrepeneurial and pro-small business, I’m surprised more Republicans aren’t backing it!

    🙂

    Been there, done that, actually. Even though my doctor considers me supremely healthy, I have a “pre-existing condition” (or two) that made me un-insurable pre-PPACA. Literally, not at any price. Considering the inane reasons I got on my 20+ rejection letters, I became a very strong proponent of reform. Frankly, I was stunned, given my generally glowing health, that I couldn’t get coverage, not even in the “high risk” category. That’s why, imo, PPACA doesn’t go far enough yet, but it’s a very good first step.

  11. Max aka Birdpilot says:

    Bart’s failure of comprehension and ability to be able to see the bigger picture is in evidence once again.

    The approve/disapprove question pertains specifically to Obama.

    The success/failure question pertains to the two years of Obama’s Presidency INCLUDING legislation passed by Congress. This is JUST LIKE when we speak of the “Carter Administration” or the “G H W Bush Administration”.

    Bart, St. Paul: Romans 13. Better get your heart right before St. Peter asks you about that one!

  12. Max aka Birdpilot says:

    Addition: That also includes legislation NOT passed by Congress because it was held up by the GOP and Reid’s ineptitude.

  13. Bart DePalma says:

    Max: Bart’s failure of comprehension and ability to be able to see the bigger picture is in evidence once again. The approve/disapprove question pertains specifically to Obama. The success/failure question pertains to the two years of Obama’s Presidency INCLUDING legislation passed by Congress. This is JUST LIKE when we speak of the “Carter Administration” or the “G H W Bush Administration”.

    Let me see if I understand your argument – Americans approve of Obama’s job performance because of Obama but they consider the Obama Administration a failure because of the Dem Congress and not Obama.

    I am unsure where your superior comprehension finds a distinction between Obama job performance and the Obama Administration or where CNN made any reference to the Dem Congress.

  14. shiloh says:

    Barted ~ I’m unsure Indeed as seen daily at 538 and evidenced by your faulty premise comparison ~ although your post was soooo wanting in construction ie gobbledygook, it’s hard to say if, in fact, it actually attempts to make a rational/any point and let the record show Bartles did not disagree w/Max er Bart’s failure of comprehension and ability to be able to see the bigger picture is in evidence once again.

    Did I mention Bart is unsure about most everything he barts but, but, but …

    still totally obsessed w/Obama! 😛

    So let’s recap, shall we:

    Bart’s confused!

    take care

  15. Max aka Birdpilot says:

    I’m quite certain, based on your demonstrated lack of comprehension of anything outside your narrow ideological box, that you ARE “unsure” of my observation.

    Let me make a simple observation for you:

    97th Congress (Jan. 1981-Jan. 1983), Speaker Tip O’Neill, Democrat of MA, House of Representatives: 244 Democrats, 191 Republicans. Fiscal and tax matters MUST originate and be passed by the House.

    Kemp-Roth Tax Cut Act enacted August 1981.

    Is the above mentioned Tax Cut Act generally considered a jewel of the Congress, specifically the House, or of the Reagan Administration?

    Ask 100 people on the street that recognize what you’re talking about and 100 will call it the Reagan (Administration) tax cut.

    Is that simple enough for you? Or would you rather play convoluted games so as to rationalize those facts into something more ideologically pleasing to you?

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