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1- Forgery, which was inevitable. From everything to “there’s a small capital M on the form and typewriters didn’t have that” to “Obama has had 3 years to make this forgery” to “the numbers at the top are all wrong.”
2- That it doesn’t matter either way because Obama Sr. wasn’t a citizen, so the POTUS couldn’t be a natural born citizen. Of course, the definition of “natural born citizen” is rather vague, but Chester A. Arthur’s father might not have been a citizen, so there’s precedent for this.
You could have videotape of the birth in Hawaii and half of them still wouldn’t believe it.
1) It’s a forgery. (Apparently, Kenyans are good forgers.)
2) Obama’s father was a British citizen, therefore by British law, Obama must also be a British citizen, regardless of where he was born.
3) Obama’s father’s race is listed as “African” which isn’t a legitimate race, so… I don’t follow the logic of this objection. Sorry.
Others are parsing the definition of “natural born” as requiring both parents to be US citizens who lived in the US for at least 5 years AND that the child be born on US soil, except if their name is John McCain and they were born in Panama…
If that’s the only issue the press is still interested in using for free Tea Party publicity, then taking that issue away should accelerate their disappearance from public view, assuming the public is rational.
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They’re crying 2 things right now.
1- Forgery, which was inevitable. From everything to “there’s a small capital M on the form and typewriters didn’t have that” to “Obama has had 3 years to make this forgery” to “the numbers at the top are all wrong.”
2- That it doesn’t matter either way because Obama Sr. wasn’t a citizen, so the POTUS couldn’t be a natural born citizen. Of course, the definition of “natural born citizen” is rather vague, but Chester A. Arthur’s father might not have been a citizen, so there’s precedent for this.
You could have videotape of the birth in Hawaii and half of them still wouldn’t believe it.
Yep, the Freepers are already arguing about font type and the amazing capabilities of Photoshop. All aboard the crazy train!
One thing I hope comes out of this is that all these silly state birther laws being pushed through die on the steps of their respective capitols.
The real reason Obama waited so long to release his birth certificate:
http://twitpic.com/4q6d90
😉
I’ve heard three main responses:
1) It’s a forgery. (Apparently, Kenyans are good forgers.)
2) Obama’s father was a British citizen, therefore by British law, Obama must also be a British citizen, regardless of where he was born.
3) Obama’s father’s race is listed as “African” which isn’t a legitimate race, so… I don’t follow the logic of this objection. Sorry.
Others are parsing the definition of “natural born” as requiring both parents to be US citizens who lived in the US for at least 5 years AND that the child be born on US soil, except if their name is John McCain and they were born in Panama…
If that’s the only issue the press is still interested in using for free Tea Party publicity, then taking that issue away should accelerate their disappearance from public view, assuming the public is rational.
@WA7th: “assuming the public is rational”
That’s a pretty big assumption!! 😉
If the consequences of this dipshittery from the right weren’t so dire, I’d be laughing my ass off right now.
This occurred exactly 15 months TOO early!
“dipshittery”
my favorite new word!
dr_funguy: I stole it from PZ Myers.